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    Default Booklets without Staples

    I'm trying to run folded saddle stitch booklets without staples. It works fine with the staples turned on but when I turn off the staples the folded books come out in 3 un-collated sections requiring manually collation of the sets. The booklet is only 12 sheets so its not out of specs for the folder and as I stated before it folds all sheets together and staples when I have the stapler turned on. Not sure what I can do as I don't see any other settings related to folding and stitching. Any help is appreciated.

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    shmegenke is offline Fiery Forum Expert Contributor shmegenke is on a distinguished path
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    I'm pretty sure that when you turn off staple, it does nothing to the ordering or collation settings from the Fiery side.

    This sounds like something you may want to escalate up to Canon.

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    oxident is offline Fiery Forum Expert Contributor oxident is on a distinguished path
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    As far as I know it might be a printer restriction. Sounds curious, I know, but our Xerox DC250/252 show the same effect.

    A xerox tech told me that the finisher just can't handle unstapled booklets with more than three sheets of paper. They refused to escalate it and I simply accepted that
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    Quote Originally Posted by oxident View Post
    As far as I know it might be a printer restriction. Sounds curious, I know, but our Xerox DC250/252 show the same effect.

    A xerox tech told me that the finisher just can't handle unstapled booklets with more than three sheets of paper. They refused to escalate it and I simply accepted that
    He was right, if he escalated it they would have immediately denied the escalation and he knew it (most likely from experience).
    The booklet tends to not stay together inside the finisher when you get more than 5 sheets folded without a staple to hold it together, and as soon as the pages start to slip the sensor(s) in the finisher see it as a possible issue because paper sensors are getting tripped too soon, or too late, or both. So it stops feeding paper, which effectively jams the paper requiring you to remove all the sheets in the machine and start over.

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