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    Default Fiery controler and MacOSX Lion

    Hello

    As every body knows, Apple is ready to release his Lion MacOS 10.7 OS

    What about Fiery utilities and drivers ???

    thanks

    Emmanuel TRICHET

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    Hi there

    Yes this is an interesting question. We, as a support business, really struggled when Snow Leopard was released. We had so many issues due to Fiery not having drivers ready. Our clients are 90% Mac orientated. Does EFI not have a development account with Apple to test beta OS's?

    Are we ready gentleman? be great to hear any news....

    Paul

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    EFI is currently reviewing this new OS and assessing Fiery print drivers and the Fiery applications such as Command WorkStation 5 and Hot Folders.

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    Hello

    Same for us, our customers are only working on graphic arts with Canon IPC1 or Canon IPC7000VP and 100% on Mac.

    I confirm that we will have probs ...
    my own report trials on a Beta Lion (and I know what means beta ... ) :
    * the installers of Fiery drivers are old school PowerPC items and do not install as PowerPC apps are no more supported
    * I install CWS5 without probs, but have an error on starting appplication
    * I1 Process control V2.1 seems to work

    I am ready to proceed any trial or beta test

    brgds

    E.T.

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    I'm still having enough trouble with 10.6.x that most of my machines are at 10.5.8. We've got an older machine (Canon iR 5085 with a H1 controller) that I can't get to print at all, and CWS seems to really dislike Snow Leopard. I hope EFI can step up to the plate on 10.7.

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    IN REPLY TO THE LAST REPLY OF THIS POST:

    Firstly I am struggling with the machine you are talking about. Can I ask whether whether it is a IRC 5185? Is this a colour machine? If so what version of software are you running on the H1? You need to upgrade the software to v2 if it isn't already there. This will get rid of your 10.6.x issues as there is a 10.6 driver for the version 2 software of this controller. Also make sure your OSX 10.6.x is updated with the latest version namely 10.6.6. Apple created havoc with the version before this one.

    If you can't upgrade your controller have you applied the 10.6 fiery driver patch on the macs? If not do this asap.

    Paul

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    Can I ask whether whether it is a IRC 5185? Is this a colour machine? If so what version of software are you running on the H1?
    Yes, that's the machine, and it is color. It looks like it's running Version 1.2. I've asked our service company if they could get me the software upgrade, but they don't even know what I'm talking about. Is there anyway I could get the upgrade directly from EFI?


    If you can't upgrade your controller have you applied the 10.6 fiery driver patch on the macs? If not do this asap.
    Word! Thanks man, I wish I had known about that sooner. Worked like a charm.

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    I am glad you are all sorted

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    Xerox DocuColor 242 w/built-in Fiery controller.

    Here is the real problem that is coming soon which has not been brought up yet:

    EFI has so far not updated the installer packages for Macintosh OS to get them to join Apple in a move that was made six years ago - the move off of PowerPC and onto Intel.

    Consequently, the Mac installer packages require Rosetta - a PowerPC compatibility app - to be able to install the drivers and work properly with OS 10.6. Additionally, 64-bit applications do not print properly. They must be run at 32-bit.

    With OS 10.7, there are currently no plans to retain Rosetta.

    Meaning: never mind CUPS or patches or permissions or any of the other problems that 10.6 brought, with OS 10.7 the current EFI installer package will be blocked from running at all because it is outdated and obsolete - and has been for years.

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    Please try to avoid generalizing one specific Fiery controller issue to general EFI behavior. This risks confusing other users.

    Quote Originally Posted by 7jlong View Post
    EFI has so far not updated the installer packages for Macintosh OS to get them to join Apple in a move that was made six years ago - the move off of PowerPC and onto Intel.
    This is only true with System 8R2 and earlier Fiery controllers. System 9 and later controllers use the universal Packagemaker-based installers and do not require Rosetta. Obviously, with 10.7 coming any day now, we're going to need to do something about the pre-system9 controllers.

    Quote Originally Posted by 7jlong View Post
    Additionally, 64-bit applications do not print properly. They must be run at 32-bit.
    This is also not a universal truth. EFI released 64-bit compatible drivers for most System8R2 and System 8eR2 controllers. System 9 and later controllers also all come with 64-bit drivers.

    With regard to older products like your DC242 the decision about new operating system support is one which has to be determined by agreement between EFI and the OEM (in your case, Xerox). While EFI pays attention to issues which users mention in the forums, EFI's actual customer is the OEM. EFI cannot act unilaterally without the OEMs' support. The best way to get new OS support on old products (especially those which are at least four years old) is to make sure your OEM is aware of the issue.

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